This came through an email list. Very interesting. At doctor visits they are now supposedly asking people if they own a gun! If true, it’s getting really pathetic out there. All the more reason to avoid the medical system as much as possible & learn to be your own doctor.
Sent: Tue, April 17, 2012 8:24:07 PM
Subject: Fw: Do you have a gun in your house…
On Tue, 4/17/12,
Subject: Do you have a gun in your house…
Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 5:15 PM
Don’t know if it is true, but I would not doubt it!!! – Sam
When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital for what should have been an overnight stay the insurance company kicked me out. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit. FYI, I am passing this along…there are comments from two other people.
I have also been asked if we keep guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask. Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn’t.
My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack. The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.
Just passing this along for your information: I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house? My answer was None of your damn business! So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!! Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners…
Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:
1. Did I feel stressed?
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?
The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security. Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Barack Hussein Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU”VE BEEN WARNED! If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them.
Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.
End Email Quote.
HOT UPDATE 10-MONTHS LATER!! NEW INFO 2/22/13:
Early this morning, Friday, 2/22/13, I saw this, below, shocking post at another blog that seems like an eery fulfillment of the above dire nosey-doctor warnings from that email a year ago, especially regarding Veterans.
Now, I am not a Veteran, nor a gun owner. What I am is a puny older female too old to become a marksman/markswoman :) & have never even known anyone who goes to VA Clinics. However, I have had dealings with SSA/SSD, & as far as I’m concerned it’s all the same. That’s why this VA letter is so chillingly creepy because they claim “info they received” is what prompted them to take this action against this Veteran. So, as the above email said at the end:
Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.
Exactly. Veteran/gun-owner or not, if you are awake to the tyranny, you should go read this post:
2/22/13: “Obama Regime Prohibits Veterans with “Disabilities” from Owning Firearms and Ammunition” – Fellowship of the Minds:
The especially creepy part, to me, was this:
We have received information showing that because of your disabilities you may need help in handling your Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) benefits.
We received a report from Portland VA Medical Center on December 3, 2012.
This evidence indicates that you are not able to handle your VA benefit payments because of a physical or mental condition.
Per the Veteran account in the email at the top from April 2012, the current guy may have admitted to his doctors/nurses of being “stressed.” (“Stressed” is a loaded word when Commies are in charge of the hen house. Never admit to being anything less than “Just Fine!”.)
I can envision the scenario: Vet goes to VA Clinic for regular appointment. Nosey-Nurse, now trained in Psychological Warfare Seminars via Continuing Education Credits sponsored by DHS/FEMA (“How To Determine an Agitated Patient Without Their Knowledge”), sets up the Vet with “small talk” by saying:
Hello Mr. Doe, so nice to see you again. But you look a little flushed. Are you feeling stressed today?
John Doe: Oh, just a little, Nurse-Nosey. The traffic getting over here today was a BEAR!
RED ALERT! RED ALERT! PATIENT GETS EASILY STRESSED!
And how did you handle that, sir?
John Doe: Well, Nurse-Nosey, I blew my car horn, of course, to get the traffic rolling.
DOUBLE RED ALERT! DOUBLE RED ALERT! PATIENT GETS EASILY STRESSRD BY MUNDANE EVERYDAY ACTIVITIES — AND — LOSES COMPLETE CONTROL OF HIMSELF!!!
And so it goes. John Doe is now classified & documented in his VA medical records as being an unstable stressed loon without self-control & completely unable to manage his DIRECT-DEPOSITED VA benefits (like, how hard is that, lol?!), much less own or keep his gun. Afterall, he may confuse his gun with his car horn next time & “blow” a fellow motorist to smithereens! (read: sarcasm there).
Seriously, besides the “You cannot have a gun” portion of the 3-page VA letter, fully included at the above blog, the most ominous is that they want to put someone ELSE in charge of handling your VA Benefits/money!! One way for the Government to keep anybody from buying anything they don’t want you to have is to declare you physically or mentally incompetent so that THEY can then play “Guardian” of your benefits, doling out, approving or disapproving & tracking every expenditure!
Will they pull this stunt with SSA &/or SSD recipients next? Check back next year & we’ll see!
In the meantime, remember the Lord’s advice:
“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless [innocent] as doves.” — Matthew 10:16.
When dealing with tyrannanical tactics — even now in the medical arena — we don’t lie, but we don’t have to fall all over ourselves to spill out every last detail of our lives either:
–Think first. Reply later.
–Don’t be intimidated.
–Don’t assume you HAVE TO answer anything! (What’s the worst they can do to you? Fire you as a patient? Good, then! Go find a more sane doctor!)
–The fewer words spoken (or written in their paperwork), all the better, in all governmental (& now medical) interactions.
–Better yet, avoid all such interactions, period, to the best of your ability.
–All medical people start out brainwashed by virtue of their Rockefeller-funded Oil=Drugs training. Until they each wake up, consider them NOT to have “your best interests at heart.”
–Stop thinking you “need them” (doctors & their drugs & insurance companies, etc.) & you’ve won half the battle (it starts in the mind!)
–Don’t train your kids to think they “need them” either. Do not drug your kids! (& don’t let the schools do it either!) If you or your kid has a problem, it’s your job to figure it out. Start in the kitchen (diet), then the “family room” (computers, raunchy video games, TV, music, etc.), then household “radiation” via wifi, dirty-electricity, cell-towers, & every other modern wireless gadget or appliance, etc. Don’t run to the so-called “experts” first.
–Especially now with massive governmental & medical computerized databasing! Stay out of their records by staying away from them, period, & then how much will they know about your life? Minimize contact! (I don’t even like dentists anymore, much less doctors, because of how their practices have changed for the worse in the past 15-20 years.)
–Ten years ago I had the pleasure to meet a Christian counselor (PhD). When he just sat there with no pen in hand I asked him, “Aren’t you going to take notes?” His reply, “NOPE!” He went on to explain that he had already learned the hard way how detrimental “written patient records” could be if there were ever any future court cases where “discovery” would be demanded. So how about that! No hardcopy. No “discovery.” Very smart. That’s a guy following the Lord’s advice to be “wise as a serpent” in this era of wolves!
–And who says you need a “check-up every year” anyway? (or a “flu shot”!) THEY do because it’s THEIR racket! built for the purpose of ensnaring you into a lifetime of “doctor visits” & a “drugging mentality”; & now, no longer just for the money but also to profile you, your body & mind, to determine whether or not you will make a “good, working, lifelong subservient slave” for the NWO.
–If you must see a doctor/dentist/professional, etc., make it a worthwhile “educational” visit, for THEM, not you. :) Print out a sheet of quotes re Freemasonry & ask the doc if he is a Mason (most are) & knows about the NWO? If yes, what degree?(If lower degree, have at it! If 33rd & above, tread carefully depending on his level of duped-ness or involvement.) Either way, yay or nay, give him the Quotes sheet before leaving as he probably knows someone who is a Mason if he is not, & help wake up one more deceived soul. Here’s a few quotes to get you started:
“HISTORIC FREEMASONRY QUOTES” – 7/5/06:
LOL at this next cartoon which showed up while searching for a “doctors & guns” photo to use at the top. This might be a good reason to avoid the “psychological & psychiatric” arm of Big Brother/Big Medicine:
That is just too funny. Crack me up… though it may be more true than not under the currently developing ObamaCare Nazi-Doctors Regime.